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September 28, 2016 by James Jardine

Scoping your application security assessment (Applications)

Assessing our applications is important because it helps us understand what security controls are efficient, and which ones are not. Whether you call it a vulnerability assessment or a penetration test, often used interchangeably, the value is important. Vulnerability assessments and penetration tests are different. The goals are often different. Many times the techniques are different as well. its s important to understand what you are trying to accomplish.

Today, many applications are spread across multiple technologies and platforms. Unlike in the past, when most applications were just on the web, now many also reside on mobile devices and even other internet of things devices. We must understand how these pieces all fit together and verify that they do not open potential issues for each other. Have a look at the following image showing some of the different components that can be a part of the same application.

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Unfortunately, when we see a security assessment performed, we typically focus on one component at a time. We know we need to test the web and mobile applications, but we do them at different times. There are many reasons for this to happen, for example different release schedules, but it is something we must consider.

Look back at the picture above and notice that there are shared APIs and data sources. Data from one application maybe be updated from another. When we perform an assessment on just one of the pieces, we lose the ability to see the effects the other pieces have. Lets look at an example:

Years ago, I worked on a system that had web, windows, and mobile components to it. The web team did an excellent job of limiting input into their application. They were fairly well protected against cross-site scripting payloads, often just by the built in frameworks they used. Unfortunately, the mobile application (which was not effected by XSS) didn’t do as good of a job with their input validation. It was very easy to put XSS payloads into the mobile application and sync them to the server. Then, switching back to the web client, viewing that data would execute the XSS.

This was a multi-part lesson. First, the web team learned that they can’t trust the data in the database. Even though they were fairly well protected against inputs in their application, there were other components updating that same data source. They had to start looking at output encoding their data when they sent it to the browser. Second, it highlighted the fact that these components don’t exist in a silo. They are working together to provide a complete solution. We couldn’t get away with just testing each one on its own. There was a whole class of issues that were left out during the testing phase.

I have seen this time and time again during application assessments and it will only get more common. Each component is different. They react different to different inputs. They store data differently. You never know when that one piece of data, hard-coded into the mobile application, will lead to a compromise on the web application.

During our development and QA stages we will have time to focus on a sole component to make sure that it is functioning as expected. However, we have to identify ways to verify that the components are working together as expected. This doesn’t start with testing, it actually starts with design and understanding the different components. Mapping out the data and how/where it is used. Understanding what that data means to different components can help us understand how it may be used against other components.

If you are getting ready to perform an application penetration test or other security assessments against your applications, consider putting them all into scope. You may be surprised at what may be found.

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: application security, application security program, appsec, consulting, penetration testing, secure development, secure program, security, security testing, vulnerability, vulnerability assessment

July 12, 2016 by James Jardine

Application Security and Responsibility

Who is responsible for application security within your organization? While this is something I don’t hear asked very often, when I look around the implied answer is the security team. This isn’t just limited to application security either. Look at network security. Who, in your organization, is responsible for network security? From my experience, the answer is still the security group. But is that how it should be? Is there a better way?

Security has spent a lot of effort to take and accept all of this responsibility. How often have you heard that security is the gate keeper to any production releases? Security has to test your application first. Security has to approve any vulnerabilities that may get accepted. Security has to ….

I won’t argue that the security group has a lot of responsibility when it comes to application security. However, they shouldn’t have all of it, or even a majority of it. If we take a step back for a moment, lets think about how applications are created. Applications are created by application teams which consist of app owners, business analysts, developers, testers, project managers, and business units. Yet, when there is a security risk with the application it is typically the security group under fire. The security group typically doesn’t have any ability to write or fix the application, and they shouldn’t. There is a separation, but are you sure you know where it is?

I have done a few presentations recently where I focus on getting application teams involved in security. I think it is important for organizations to think about this topic because for too long we have tried to separate the duties at the wrong spot.

The first thing I like to point out is that the application development teams are smart, really smart. They are creating complex business functions that drive most organizations. We need to harness this knowledge rather than trying to augment it with other people. You might find this surprising, but most application security tools have GUIs that anyone on your app dev teams can use with little experience. Yet, most organizations I have been into have the security group running the security tools (such as Veracode, Checkmarx, WhiteHat, Contrast, etc). This is an extra layer that just decreases the efficiency of the process.

By getting the right resources involved with some of these tools and tasks, it not only gets security closer to the source, but it also frees up the security team for other activities. Moving security into the development process increases efficiency. Rather than waiting on a scan by the security team, the app team can run the scans and get the results more quickly. Even better, they can build it into their integration process and most likely automate much of the work. This changes the security team to be reserved for the more complex security issues. It also makes the security team more scalable when they do not have to just manage tools.

I know what you are thinking.. But the application team doesn’t understand security. I will give it to you, in may organizations this is very true. But why? Here we have identified what the problem really is. Currently, security tries to throw tools at the issue and manage those tools. But the real problem is that we are not focusing on maturing the application teams. We attempt to separate security from the development lifecycle. I did a podcast on discussing current application security training for development teams.

Listen to the podcast on AppSec Training

Everyone has a responsibility for application security, but we need to put a bigger focus on the application teams and getting them involved. We cannot continue to just hurl statements about getting these teams involved over the fence. We say to implement security into the SDLC, but rarely are we defining these items. We say to educate the developers, but typically just provide offensive security testing training, 1-2 days a year. We are not taking the time to identify how they work, how their processes flow, etc. to determine how to address the problem.

Take a look at your program and really understand it. What are you currently doing? Who is performing what roles? What resources do you have and are you using them effectively? What type of training are you providing and is it effective regarding your goals?

We will be discussing more of these topics in the future. To get started in your own organization, start with the questions above. Want to talk more about these topics? Contact us

James Jardine is the CEO and Principal Consultant at Jardine Software Inc. He has over 15 years of combined development and security experience. If you are interested in learning more about Jardine Software, you can reach him at james@jardinesoftware.com or @jardinesoftware on twitter.

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: application program, application security, application security program, appsec, developer, deveopment program, qa, sdlc, secure development, secure program, security, security testing, testing

June 3, 2016 by James Jardine

Understanding the “Why”

If I told you to adjust your seat before adjusting your mirror in your car, would you just do it? Just because I said so, or do you understand why there is a specific order? Most of us retain concepts better when we can understand them logically.

Developing applications requires a lot of moving pieces. An important piece in that process is implementing security controls to help protect the application, the company, and the users. In many organizations, security is heavily guided by an outside group, i.e.. the security group or 3rd party testers.

Listen to the podcast of this topic

Looking at an external test, or even a test by an internal security team, often the result is a report containing findings. These findings typically include a recommendation to guide the application team in a direction to help reduce or mitigate the finding. In my experience, the recommendations tend to be pretty generic. For example, a username harvesting flaw may come with a recommendation to return the same message for both valid and invalid user names. In most cases, this is a valid recommendation as it is the reason for the flaw.

But Why? Why does it matter?

Working with application teams, it quickly becomes clear the level of understanding regarding security topics. The part that is often missing is the Why. Sure, the team can implement a generic message (using the username harvesting flaw above) and it may solve the finding. But does it solve the real issue? What are the chances that when you come back and test another app for this same development team that the flaw may exist somewhere else? When we take the time to really explain why this finding is a concern, how it can be abused, and start discussing ways to mitigate it, the team gets better. Push aside the “sky is falling” and take the time to understand the application and context.

As security professionals we focus too much on fixing a vulnerability. Don’t get me wrong, the vulnerability should be fixed, but we are too focused. Taking a step back allows us to see a better approach. It is much more than just identifying flaws. It is about getting the application teams to understand why they are flaws (not just because security said so) so they become a consideration in future development. This includes the entire application team, not just developers. Lets look at another example.

An Example

Let’s say that you have a change password form that doesn’t require the current password. As a security professional, your wheels are probably spinning. Thinking about issues like CSRF. From a development side, the typical response “Why do I need to input my password when I just did that to login to change my password?” While the change will most likely get made, because security said it had too, there is still a lack of understanding from the application team. If CSRF was your first reason, what if they have CSRF protections already in place? Do you have another reason? What about if the account is hijacked somehow, or a person sits at the user’s desk and they forgot to lock their PC? By explaining the reasoning behind the requirement, it starts to make sense and is better received. It dominos into a chance that the next project that is developed will take this into consideration.

When the business analysts sits down to write the next change password user story, it will be a part of it. Not because security said so, but because they understand the use case better and how to protect it.

If you are receiving test results, take the time to make sure you understand the findings and the WHY. It will help providing a learning objective as well as reduce the risk of not correcting the problem. Understand how the issue and remediation effects your application and users.

James Jardine is the CEO and Principal Consultant at Jardine Software Inc. He has over 15 years of combined development and security experience. If you are interested in learning more about Jardine Software, you can reach him at james@jardinesoftware.com or @jardinesoftware on twitter.

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: applicaitons, application security, appsec, ba, developer, developer training, development, penetration testing, qa, secure development, security, security testing

March 22, 2016 by James Jardine

Webcast: Introduction to Penetration Testing for Application Teams

In most organizations it is the security team that initiates and manages the penetration tests. The application teams are called upon to ensure that an environment is available, credentials are created, and to remedy any findings in the report. Many application teams don’t even get the full report, rather just a listing of the findings. This listing often doesn’t include the needed details.

In this presentation, James Jardine focuses on educating application teams on what a penetration test is and how to extract the most value from it. Application teams learn how to participate in the engagement and better understand the report.

You can watch the recorded session at any time at: https://youtu.be/I1PukF8Glh0

https://youtu.be/I1PukF8Glh0

James Jardine is the CEO and Principal Consultant at Jardine Software Inc. He has over 15 years of combined development and security experience. If you are interested in learning more about Jardine Software, you can reach him at james@jardinesoftware.com or @jardinesoftware on twitter.

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: app sec, application security, appsec, developer, developer awareness, pen testing, penetration testing, secure development, security, security testing, vulnerability, vulnerability assessment

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